AP/ May 15, 2012, 11:18 PM

Army opens jobs in combat battalions to women

In a May 9, 2012, photo, Capt. Sara Rodriguez of the 101st Airborne Division walks through the woods during the expert field medical badge testing at Fort Campbell, Ky., on May 9, 2012.

In a May 9, 2012, photo, Capt. Sara Rodriguez of the 101st Airborne Division walks through the woods during the expert field medical badge testing at Fort Campbell, Ky., on May 9, 2012. / AP Photo

(AP) FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. - Female soldiers this week are moving into new jobs in once all-male units as the Army breaks down formal barriers in recognition of what has already happened in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The policy change announced earlier this year is being tested at nine brigades, including one at Fort Campbell, before going Army-wide. It opens thousands of jobs to female soldiers by loosening restrictions meant to keep them away from the battlefield. Experience on the ground in the past decade showed women were fighting and dying alongside male soldiers anyway.

Col. Val Keaveny Jr., commander of the 4th Brigade Combat Team that is among units piloting the change, told The Associated Press that for the last decade it has been common to have women temporarily attached to the combat units and serve alongside them.

"Women have served in our Army since the Revolutionary War and they have done phenomenal work and continue to do so today," he said. "There is great talent and now we can have it in the headquarters of infantry, armor and cavalry."

Under the new policy, female officers and non-commissioned officers will be assigned to combat units below the brigade level. The change will open up about 14,000 new jobs for women in the military, but there are still more than 250,000 jobs that remain closed to women.

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The new jobs within combat battalions are in personnel, intelligence, logistics, signal corps, medical and chaplaincy. The Army is also opening jobs that were once entirely closed to women, such as mechanics for tanks and artillery and rocket launcher crew members.

The 4th Brigade draws its lineage from the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, whose World War II heroics led to books and a TV miniseries called the "Band of Brothers." But these days, Keaveny said there are more than 350 women already serving in the brigade and they will be opening 36 new jobs to women in the battalions.

"For the last 10 years, we have been fighting alongside women. In my experience I have seen that the Band of Brothers quickly integrate their sisters and they are a family," he said.

Capt. Elizabeth Evans, a 44-year-old mother of five, is one of the first women assigned to the combat battalions. She will be serving as a battalion S1, whose job is to oversee personnel issues within the battalion, including awards, casualties, human resources and other administrative responsibilities. She said there is a lot of pride associated with serving in an infantry unit.

"I think there's a rich history in the 101st and especially the 4th Brigade Combat Team," she said. "To me that means something. It means something to be a part of not necessarily history, but to be a part of a once all-male battalion."

Evans, who has deployed to Afghanistan, noted that women have been serving in dangerous jobs in Iraq and Afghanistan for 10 years.

"With the fluidity of the battlefield and how there are no front lines, it just makes more sense to me to allow women to come into those roles, those noncombat staff roles," she said.

Keaveny said these changes will have minimum impact on where women will be located while deployed. Battalion headquarters are generally located at bases where women were already stationed and the Army has been using female engagement teams to reach out to civilians in remote areas.

"Quite honestly we don't see there's going to be any friction," he said.

Kayla Williams, author of "Love My Rifle More Than You: Young and Female in the US Army," served with the 3rd Brigade Combat Team under the 101st Airborne Division during the initial invasion into Iraq as an enlisted soldier in military intelligence.

Early in the war, she wasn't even issued plates for her ballistic vest "because females can't serve in combat," she said. She said once she was temporarily attached to an infantry battalion at Fort Campbell that had no female latrines.

As an Arabic translator, she was attached to infantry units rather than assigned, but doing the same things as her male infantry counterparts, including going on foot patrols and living in remote combat outposts.

"Women have been serving in very forward deployed roles, and women have been serving side-by-side with combat arms personnel, just not in a formalized assigned method," said Williams, who is a fellow at the Truman National Security Project.

She said these incremental changes could improve the professional development of both men and women in the military, but acknowledged that the military still has a long way to go to leveling the field for women.

"It is my personal opinion that the institutionalization of women as not being able to serve in combat arms has a way of subtly allowing sexism within the military," she said.

Evans said she hopes the expanded roles will encourage more women to consider a career in the Army.

"I think for females in general, it's bringing us new avenues for accomplishments, for professional growth. In my personal belief, we are a part of supporting our infantryman," she said.

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bilrobi1 says:
AOCGUY. If you read my post you will see that we are in agreement in many areas. I'm proud of my service as I'm sure you are. Again I think I posted following the wrong comment and it is out of context.I meant to respond to someone who mentioned "fragging". It made me angry.My last comment actually was not directed at you.
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AOCGUY replies:
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Understood. I retract my response.
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rightofwrong says:
If women want to fight and potentially die, that's their decision. If we as a society decide that we are no longer going to protect women from harm, then this is a great idea. As a man, I am hard-wired to protect a woman from harm and it goes against my preservation instincts to agree with them being in combat. But I have discovered that a woman will do what she wants when she wants and arguing will get zero resolution. I say, let's remove our troops from around the world, fix our problems at home, and bomb the crap out of anyone that messes with us. Is the UN not the world's police anyway? Let's build solar farms in the Arizona desert and rely on the sun instead of the Middle East. The oil companies now call themselves "energy" companies anyway. Feel free to bash away and show your true political colors:)
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daffy64 replies:
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Sensible.
AOCGUY replies:
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Well George you might have to do some rather major modification to your truck. Don't think you will get the same towing capacity though. Suppose you could use peanut oil as a lubricant.
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daffy64 says:
by daffy64 May 16, 2012 12:06 PM EDT
Canada opened up combat roles to women and at first, a lot of them tried out. They failed the physical requirements so badly that hardly any of them could get considered for the infantryman's course let alone pass it. Of course, feminists went into a rage that is was "too hard" so the standards were lowered wayyyyyyy down to a point where even an out of shape male could pass.

The results had very little effect on the toughness of the individual units however. Since every infantry unit in Canada did at least two tours in Afghanistan, the weak individuals were weeded out pretty quickly, or in the case of "combat females" assigned to "guarding the base" while the males went on patrol. And looking as the casualty lists...157 men were killed. 1 woman.

Gee. Where is the 50/50 ratio of men to women combat soldiers the feminists were bragging would be a reality within several years?
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AOCGUY replies:
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Daffy, as a Canadian why the heck do you care how the US Military assigns women?
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pdchapin says:
When I served in the army I knew a fair number of male losers who I would have gladly traded for a motivated woman. Set reasonable standards and let the qualified do the job. Standards are the issue. Studies have shown that while the average woman has less upper body strength for example, they endure many of kinds of external stress, such as temperature extremes, better than men. If you have to put somebody on top of a sand dune to look out for the enemy then, all else being equal, the woman has the advantage.
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I remember on a deployment to Honduras back in the 80s there were some female cable dogs from the 11th SigBde that I swear could lift a tank. Back then I was in pretty good shape, ran marathon's etc, but I sure as heck couldn't have done what I saw these gals do. If one is physically and mentally capable of doing a job then gender should never come into play.
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Well I guess if you specialize soldier's roles to the point where it's one individual's job to "stand on a sand dune, looking out for the enemy" then yeah, strength, endurance, and resistance to injury doesn't really matter.

However, if you want a force with the motto "every individual a rifleman" as the Marines USED to do, then no, females aren't your best choice.

A military is always stronger when you can take ANY soldier, place a weapon in their hands, and send them to the front.
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magnumdr says:
The only thing I don't like about Women fighting our battles is the thought of them being captured. Women can go through a hell by being raped by the enemy. Other tha this fact everything else is a go.
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AOCGUY replies:
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You think it is a bed of roses when men get raped by the enemy?
daffy64 replies:
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I think he's pointing out the fact that women stand a much higher chance of being sexually abused and then killed by their (all male) enemy.

As long as female soldiers sign a form promising they won't blame and sue the military for the abuse they'll receive as prisoners, I guess it's a "go".
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daffy64 says:
Awesome. This means if there's another world war and they instigate the draft again, women will have to go too. It's about time. Now, is the gov. going to change the rules for "selective service" right away?
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AOCGUY replies:
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daffy, the issue of woman serving in combat arms in the Army and the draft are two different things. From what I gather from the article the Army is not looking to assign women to infantry MOSs but rather support MOSs such as signal, medical, ISR, etc at Brigade and below. Now I have never been in the Army but I have served with the Army and I saw plenty of women working in those MOSs mentioned in the article. I suspect the change is to assign them to more front line echelons.
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Excellent. Like I said, if there's a draft again, they won't be exempt, because, as you point out, there's lots of roles for them.
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kaylag04 says:
I assume that the vastly different physical fitness standards have been standardized to the higher, male requirement for these jobs; I mean, I hope so. They wouldn't just put folks together in these positions who didn't have to meet the same standards, right? Only a politician would do something like that, and this is the military we're talking about.
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bilrobi1 replies:
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And your military experience is?
AOCGUY replies:
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What's your point bilrobi1?
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Cuda1956 says:
This has nothing to do with politics! It's based on the needs of the Army and filling positions with someone that's competent, has the requisite skill sets, and it increases the pool of available (and qualified) personnel to fill certain jobs. Your comments don't pass the commonsense test! BTW, I'm retired Army, served 25 years as an Infantryman and Air Defender. There are many women that are quite capable of serving in combat related MOSs/units, they just need to be given the opportunity.
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ObamasGuppies says:
I think it's great because they get the same benefits for being in the military so they need to do the same work. During the first Gulf War, I would get livid that I would send young men into harms way but the women took the back seat role. I agree that women should have equal rights but you can't pick and choose. It's the same thing with minorities picking and choosing what they want.
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ericmooreart says:
I severed a Cav Scout in the army and don't have a problem with women serving in a combat mos. Anyone can pick up a weapon and shoot. Any questions about emotional inability should be left in 10,000 BC. All I would ask is don't lower any physical requirements.

As a Scout I would often be away from an area where I could take a shower for several days at a time. The same goes for Infantry. I do honestly wonder how the army would deal with a certain feminine monthly issue for those MOSes should they be opened in the future? Would cold water and a canteen cup be sufficient?

Also since the military is looking to be equal, women should have o sign up for the draft also
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