AP/ April 26, 2012, 10:21 PM

Lesbian Scout leader ousted; parents upset

This April 25, 2012 photo shows Jennifer Tyrrell and her son Cruz Burns, 7, during a visit to New York. Tyrrell traveled to New York from her home in Bridgeport, Ohio, to build momentum for a petition to overturn what she says are Ohio Boy Scout's anti-gay policies, after she was removed as den leader for her son's cub scout troop.

This April 25, 2012 photo shows Jennifer Tyrrell and her son Cruz Burns, 7, during a visit to New York. Tyrrell traveled to New York from her home in Bridgeport, Ohio, to build momentum for a petition to overturn what she says are Ohio Boy Scout's anti-gay policies, after she was removed as den leader for her son's cub scout troop. / AP Photo/Bebeto Matthews

(AP) The first-graders in Ohio Pack 109's Tiger Scouts didn't know or care their den mother was a lesbian — at least not until the Boy Scouts of America threw her out over the organization's ban on gays.

Now, parents who were aware of Jennifer Tyrrell's sexual orientation well before she took the boys on campouts and helped them carve race cars for the annual Pinewood Derby have rallied to her defense in a case that has re-ignited the debate over the Scouts' policy.

"I teach my children to judge people on their actions," said Rob Dunn, a father in Bridgeport, a village of about 2,000 across the Ohio River from Wheeling, W.Va. "Whether you agree with their lifestyle or not."

The Boy Scouts of America, whose oath calls for members to be "morally straight," maintains that as a private organization it has the right to exclude gays and atheists from its ranks.

That stance was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 but has led many state and local governments to deny support for the Scouts.

Male scout leaders who are gay have long been barred, but instances of women being excluded are not well-documented and probably rare. A lesbian couple in Vermont were told two years ago that they could no longer be involved with their son's Scout troop.

Because of the policy, Tyrrell said she only reluctantly allowed her 7-year-old son to join up in Bridgeport, where she lives with her partner and their four children. Told, she said, by the local cub master that it didn't matter that she is a lesbian, she was drafted to lead the pack in September.

Tyrrell told parents at their first meeting about her sexual orientation. Some already knew her because she had coached youth baseball and volunteered at school, organizing class parties and reading to children.

"She wasn't trying to hide anything," said Dunn, whose son is among the dozen or so members of the boys-only pack. "Nobody I know of has ever made a single complaint against her."

Tyrrell said she was removed in April, right after she was asked to take over as treasurer of the local Boy Scout troop — which oversees Tiger Scouts, Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts — and she raised questions about the finances.

She said the Boy Scout Council for the region told her she had to resign because she is gay.

"In this case, the policy was understood by her and her fellow volunteers but not followed," said Deron Smith, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America at its headquarters in Irving, Texas. "When a fellow pack leader made a complaint about it, to a local Scouting professional, they followed the policy."

The organization said it believes Scouting is not the right place for youngsters to be exposed to issues of sexual orientation.

Tyrrell said she is not certain who complained, but she felt betrayed.

So did parents, who organized a protest last week outside the church where the pack held its meetings. They demanded Tyrrell be reinstated.

Crystal Sabinsky said: "My son asked me last night, `Why did Jen leave? Why is she in trouble?' He doesn't understand."

"The only people who were hurt were the kids," Dunn said "They're asking questions they shouldn't have to ask at this point."

Parents of the Tiger Scouts, a program for first-grade boys before they become Cub Scouts, said they never heard Tyrrell mention her sexuality to the children. Club rules require a parent or other adult to accompany each child to every meeting.

"I had no clue she was a lesbian. It doesn't really make a difference to me," said Don Thomas, whose grandson is in the pack. "She did a fantastic job, and the kids loved her. You couldn't ask for a better den leader."

Gay rights groups have taken up Tyrrell's cause, starting an online petition to get the Scouts to change their policy.

"The extent that people care is amazing," Tyrrell said. "We're a perfectly normal family. We're not dangerous. We're not predators. We're just normal, everyday people."

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squirleywrath says:
I completely disagree with the characterization of excluding homosexuals as being he same as racism. Racism is an immoral stance that discriminates simply on genetics. Choosing to exclude homosexuals is a moral stance, as it is seen by those of traditional faith as an immoral lifestyle.

I applaud the BSA for sticking to a high moral standard, and not bending to the whims of a society that continues to jettison as many morals as possible, leaving us in a crime riddled wasteland. If the BSA changes their stance I may be the one leaving, and closing down the Pack that I run.
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Ourdoc1 says:
I was an Eagle Scout when I was young, and to me if their policy doesn't change the organization is dead as it should be.
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credibility2 says:
Another gay pushing their agenda on a private organization that clearly prohibits gays. What's being lost in all of this is the lies and misrepresentation. Losing their job is justified since they lied and misrepresented their employment requirements. I'm sure this individual was aware of the situation and pushed it just so they'd be fired so they could turn round and sue for a flimsy right's violation.
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DinkaSavage replies:
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..........but she DIDN'T misrepresent her employment requirements. She told everyone that she was gay and she was apparently told by the local cub master that it didn't matter if she was a lesbian when she was selected to lead the troop.

If anything, it sounds like it's the BSA that misrepresented the role...not that I agree with their policies; however they are, as you say, a private organization.
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Molly-Pchr says:
It was her own son's troop? What do they think she's going to do? I might move my son if it were a gay male (sorry, but same as I would move my daughter if it were a straight male) but removing this mom is wrong.
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Inis_Magrath says:
Forget the Boy Scouts. Take your kids, contact Camp Fire USA and join your nearest council. They are a great program, been around for over a hundred years and they don't kick people out for being different like the Boy Scouts do. If there isn't a council near you, find out how to start one. See: www.campfireusa.org


As for the Boy Scouts, I'll never give them another penny and I'll make sure they get no public taxpayer money from my community.
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bread58 says:
The Boy Scouts of America are a private organization, and they have a right to be as exclusionary and homophobic as they want to.

I think it's morally wrong, but that doesn't mean it is or should be illegal.

If you don't believe in this policy, boycott them. The Bible says that "money answereth all things." Starve them of your dollars and you may change their minds. Or go start your own version that's open to everyone.
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HDTVCAMERA replies:
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This already is an issue for us in So Cal. When attempting to get the scouts door prizes for a recent event we were to "NO" because of the scout's position on gay leadership. I ended up having to buy everything myself. I am a fiscal conservative but break with political party on this issue.
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If they are taking tax dollars, it is another issue
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danggem says:
http://www.spiralscouts.org/ this is a nice alternative to Boy Scouts of America for open minded peace loving peeps.
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HDTVCAMERA says:
I am registered as the Cubmaster of Pack 275 in Southern California. I will NEVER discriminate against ANY person because of sexual orientation. I am writing the Boy Scouts of America today to let them know this. If they want to remove me from my volunteer position they are welcome to do so. Stephen Carmona
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squirleywrath replies:
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If you don't want to follow organizational policy, you should just resign. BSA should not have to remove you because you won't follow the rules.
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FnOh says:
The Boy Scouts of America, whose oath calls for members to be "morally straight," maintains that as a private organization it has the right to exclude gays and atheists from its ranks.... Guess others have right beyond the gays eh ??? What a strange concept.... Rights for non-gays... Sounds strange...
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dc2ndresr says:
I appreciate this story.
Just when you think society got educated in the "monkey triaL in Tennessee when Clarence Darrow, with only a bible, proved that science must trump religion where matters of truth count. Having watched the legislative battles over gay Marriage and the recent San Ftancusco Federal Ptoposition 8 case, it is so obvious that gay/children fears are irresponsible, unscientific fiction.
The benefit of your article is that I will never again make United Way contributions where the Boy Scouts are a part of the recipients, nor will I make any direct contribution to these hopelessly, medieval monstrosities perpetuating ignorance and prejudice. At the next Red Arrow installation, will they be firing up the next Copernicus?
This is a representative democracy, not a "Know Nothing Natavist" theocracy of bigots, birthers and otherwise brain-dead John Birchers.
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