CBS/AP/ March 12, 2012, 11:05 AM

Shooting suspect from "most troubled" U.S. base

(CBS/AP) JOINT BASE LEWIS-McCHORD, Wash. - A soldier suspected of killing 16 Afghan villagers Sunday comes from Joint Base Lewis-McChord, one of the largest military installations in the U.S. — and one that has seen its share of controversies and violence in the past few years.

The base, home to about 100,000 military and civilian personnel, has suffered a spate of suicides among soldiers back from war. The Army is investigating whether doctors at Lewis-McChord's Madigan Army Medical Center were urged to consider the cost of providing benefits when reviewing diagnoses of post-traumatic stress disorder.

Most famously, four Lewis-McChord soldiers were convicted in the deliberate thrill killings of three Afghan civilians in 2010.

The military newspaper Stars and Stripes called it "the most troubled base in the military" that year.

"It's another blow to this community," said Spc. Jared Richardson, an engineer, as he stood outside a barbershop near the base Sunday. "This is definitely something we don't need."

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U.S. officials tell CBS News national security correspondent David Martin the shooter was a conventional soldier from a Stryker Brigade based at Lewsis-McChord, and was assigned to support a special operations unit engaged in a village stability operation, which usually entails training local militiamen to protect the area.

He was a sergeant, married with two children, who had served three tours in Iraq and began his first deployment to Afghanistan in December, a senior U.S. official tells the Associated Press.

Lewis-McChord, a sprawling complex of red brick buildings, training fields and forests, is about 45 miles south of Seattle and has grown quickly since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Officials there have said that any community the size of the base is bound to have its problems, and its reputation has been tarred by "a small number of highly visible but isolated episodes" that don't accurately reflect the remarkable accomplishments of its service members, including their work overseas and the creation of new programs to support returning soldiers.

The controversies have indeed been highly visible.

In 2010, a dozen soldiers from the base were arrested on a slew of charges that ranged from using drugs, beating up a whistleblower in their unit, and deliberately killing three Afghan civilians during patrols in Kandahar Province. Prosecutors at Lewis-McChord won convictions against four of the five who were charged in the killings.

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After the first killing, the father of one of the soldiers called Lewis-McChord to report it — and to say that more killings were planned. The staff sergeant who took the call didn't report it to anyone else, saying he didn't have the authority to begin an investigation in a war zone. By the time the suspects were arrested months later, two more civilians were dead.

Army Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs, of Billings, Mont., the highest ranking defendant, was sentenced to life in prison. At his seven-day court martial at Lewis-McChord, Gibbs acknowledged cutting fingers off corpses and yanking out a victim's tooth to keep as war trophies, "like keeping the antlers off a deer you'd shoot."

There have been other episodes of violence involving the base's soldiers or former soldiers. A former soldier shot and injured a Salt Lake City police officer in 2010; he died when police returned fire.

On Jan. 1, a 24-year-old Iraq war veteran shot and killed a Mount Rainier National Park ranger before succumbing to the cold and drowning in a creek.

Last year, Lewis-McChord saw more suicides than ever before — 12, up from 9 in each of the prior two years. The Army has seen more suicides at bases across the country since the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan began.

The toll at Lewis-McChord rose despite new efforts to counsel soldiers when they come home from war, including the creation of a suicide-prevention office.

In the past five years, about 300 patients at Madigan Army Medical Center at the base had their PTSD diagnoses reversed by a forensic psychiatry team, The Seattle Times reported this month. The Army is reviewing whether those doctors were influenced by how much a PTSD diagnosis can cost, in terms of a pension and other benefits.

At Coffee Strong, a coffee shop near the base that doubles as a resource center for soldiers seeking to leave the Army, executive director Jorge Gonzalez said he was not surprised the shooter was from the base.

"Joint Base Lewis McChord has been bombarded with bad stories," said Gonzales, who served in the Army in Iraq in 2006. "We're not seeing the true costs of war, we're seeing soldiers committing suicide ... murder and domestic violence."

Richardson said the vast majority of the tens of thousands of soldiers at the base were professionals.

"It's unfortunate that these things keeping ending up at Joint Base Lewis-McChord," he said. "I promise you, not even a percent of those people are like this, but unfortunately it keeps happening. Things like this will continue until there is no more war."

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julianpenrod says:
Some points to be made about some references in the article.
Spc. Jared Richardson says that those guilty of atrocities make up less than one percent of all the enlisted. But if they do more damage than the remainder do good, it is still a losing proposition.
And Richardon observes, "Things like this will continue until there is no more war." Those properly schooled in New World Order thinking will interpret this as meaning that thse kind of things go with war and, as long as there is war on this planet, they will continue. However, his words can also be seen as a clandestine threat, that these abominations will continue until the Afghans surrender, roll over and let themselves be raped bloody by the New World Order!
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starving1968-3 says:
by ConSense March 12, 2012 2:28 PM EDT
Obama has already announced our surrender in 2014. Don't try to rush things.







Funny, you conservatives called the end of the Iraq debacle a "surrender" as well.

I guess you'd rather see more soldiers die FOR NOTHING?
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ConSense replies:
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Speaking only for myself, I'd rather see the job done that our soldiers died to do. Our soldiers didn't die "for nothing," except when liberal politicians don't support them in hopes of locking down the coward vote.
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Chris0369 says:
How the hell did this Sgt leave the compound in the first place? Are soldiers allowed to leave anytime they want?
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ConSense replies:
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And WITH a loaded weapon, alone.
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sevendecades says:
Please close this base NOW & END THIS "WAR" NOW. This "stupidity" (a war that never should have started) has gone on for 10 years AND AMEERICAN SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE LOST TOO MUCH - LIVES, LIMBS, FAMILY TIME, & ENDLESS PTSD. Do we ever learn that war is not the solution, even though Sen McCain wants to start another war. PLEASE END THIS WAR NOW & SAVE AMERICANS.
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ConSense replies:
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Obama has already announced our surrender in 2014. Don't try to rush things.
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kroguej says:
McChord WA, what the H. That is actually one of the cooler locations as far as military bases go.
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AVRWEBGUY says:
The truth is that we are all complicit in these killings. The politicians sent our fellow Americans to fight a war that should have been a police action fought with special forces. The "War" on terrorism is no more effective than the "War" on drugs. Catchy phrase that pays political capital. Don't even get me started on the second Iraq war. Then there's the soldier that went off the reservation. Probably PTSD but we are still responsible for what we do... Ultimately though, the American people are responsible because we stood by and let our government do what we knew (or should have known) was wrong and corrupted with desire for revenge. We must ultimately realize that Americans are not the only peoples that have a right to live. Everybody on this planet has a right to live. The Afghans had little/nothing to do with Al Qaeda. The Iraqi's had nothing to do with terrorism in the US. Bin Laden is gone. Why are US forces still in the middle east?
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kroguej replies:
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What do you think war is? Its killing people and blowing things up.
kroguej replies:
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What do you think war is? Its killing people and blowing things up.

PS if you remember Cheyne said in an interview:

Inerviewer - the american people are turning against these wars

Cheyne - "so"

How much say do you thing we have?
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darkhorseky says:
This is a bad thing to happen. But We Americans allow our Men and Women to be trianned in killingand do it Well!!!! That is War to Kill your enemy!!! These are Humand beings. Hard to go back from being a worrier. Remember Thier not those precision machines we turn on and off. When a person becomes a worrier it is hard to just turn off and on. Look at all the Wars we was ever in. Even when they came home they was differant. I feel for them and those that dont understand. But of course most of American never and I Mean never gave anything to there country like these people do!!!! We as Americans need to just stay home and let them all kill each other!!!!
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shnovitz replies:
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Good grief. It is "warrior", not WORRIER. Can you not use a dictionary? Your spelling is unbelievable, as is your grammar. TRY, please TRY, and go out to buy a good dictionary. This is dreadful.

But you are right. We should all stay home, and let them get on with killing each other. It's what they do well, and they hate having us there anyway. They will now murder as many of our soldiers as possible, and use this awful tragedy as an excuse. They never need a reason to kill; it comes naturally, and it's all they know. The Quran and murder.
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Hey Shnovitz
Thanks for agreeing with me.But as for the spelling , step off. Because of one of our wars long ago. My eyes are not so good , since one of them does not work anymore because of a Vc's morter. So live with it!!!! I do!
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wattermelann says:
If this base is having problems, then there should be support systems in place to deal with the issues. As usual lack of funding is the culprit. How many people have to die in order to streamline costs and save insurance companies money. The military does not take care of those who fight and protect their country. I think that in the future people should reconsider enlisting. In fact people should stop enlisting until, better support systems are implemented and better retirement medical benefits is provided to support the damage war does to human beings.
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ConSense replies:
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"As usual lack of funding is the culprit."

And your source is?
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Elfinbien says:
My husband is a disabled veteran who served 15 months in Iraq. He has PTSD, TBI, and blown, herniated, and ruptured discs in his back. All of those issues are combat related. He has tremors in his head and hands and according to the Army the tremors are psychosomatic and he just has to "de-stress". He has been told they've wasted enough money on him so they won't run any tests to find out if the tremors are a physical problem. There was one doctor who actually got far enough to discover that the tremors are physical, but one phone call from the higher ups and suddenly that diagnosis was changed to tow the company line. SOMEONE is influencing these doctors to spend as little money as possible on these returning soldiers. And my husband isn't stationed at Fort Lewis McChord so this issue is an Army problem, not a specific base problem.
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shnovitz replies:
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My heart goes out to you, and I don't know what else to say. If they are spending as little money as possible on these returning soldiers, then it is sheer exploitation of the kids brave enough to join the military. Is it possible for you to contact the government - really high-up government? Surely it must be possible. You can make such a nuisance of yourself that eventually someone will have to take notice. It has been done by others, and it works! You have a right to make a big fuss; you pay your taxes and your husband has sacrificed his health. I would embarrass them as much as possible if I were you, until someone actually gives an accurate diagnosis and appropriate treatment. Good luck to you.
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netjunkie1 - His organs seem to be OK. At least as far as we can tell. He goes to a doctor who tells him it's neurological and he goes to a doctor who tells him is psychological and they won't do any testing to see which it is. It's very frustrating. He's being medically discharged and we're waiting on the ratings now so they won't approve any new testing regardless of his need. He started this process in Dec. 2009 and they're telling us it could be another six months to a year before he's out. And because of a screw up he was never put in the Warrior Transition Unit so for over two years he's still had to do his regular duty this entire time. During this wait he gets worse and all they do is give him pain and sleeping pills, and because he doesn't have a pain management plan he has to beg for those every month.

shnovitz - I've gone to Senators and Congressmen and nothing seems to help. It opens a few doors, but they never stay open for very long. He was told if I keep complaining and demanding better treatment for him it will get a whole lot worse before it gets a tiny bit better. So they win. They get to destroy him physically and mentally and there's nothing I can do because any peep I make they take it out on him. Right now he lives off-base in a very quite area and even though he's married he was threatened with having to move back into the barracks. With his PTSD that would be terrible. So right now we're just hoping and praying his rating get back sooner rather than later and he can finally, over six months past his official discharge date, come home.
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Zann-Zel says:
How can you ever accomplish Peace, by killing?

You shoot, they're gonna shoot back. Where does it end?

And what the heck is going on differently at this base than at others? : /

And this "story" makes no sense anyway, how could ONE man accomplish that many killngs alone, before being stopped?
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Zann-Zel replies:
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Is that the answer to all four questions nutjunkie? lol
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