AP/ February 28, 2012, 11:04 PM

Justice Dept. to review NYPD over Muslim spying

A group of Muslim students gather outside Rutgers' Paul Robeson Campus Center in Newark, N.J., Friday, Feb. 24, 2012, after the New Jersey chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NJ), along with the Rutgers University Muslim Alumni Association and other groups held a news conference to address concerns about the spying conducted by the New York City Police Department on the Muslim community in New Jersey.

A group of Muslim students gather outside Rutgers' Paul Robeson Campus Center in Newark, N.J., Friday, Feb. 24, 2012, after the New Jersey chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NJ), along with the Rutgers University Muslim Alumni Association and other groups held a news conference to address concerns about the spying conducted by the New York City Police Department on the Muslim community in New Jersey. / AP Photo/Mel Evans

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress on Tuesday that, months after receiving complaints about the New York Police Department's surveillance of entire American Muslim neighborhoods, the Justice Department is beginning a review to decide whether to investigate civil rights violations.

Holder said that police seeking to monitor activities by citizens "should only do so when there is a basis to believe that something inappropriate is occurring or potentially could occur."

Holder responded under questioning by Rep. Mike Honda, D-Calif., who as an infant was sent with his parents to a Japanese internment camp during World War II and has compared that policy to the NYPD's treatment of Muslims. The attorney general was on Capitol Hill to discuss the Justice Department's federal budget.

Holder did not suggest that a Justice Department investigation of the NYPD was imminent. Over the last six months, the AP has revealed the inner workings of secret programs of the NYPD, built with help from the CIA, to monitor Muslims.

Police have built databases showing where Muslims live, where they buy groceries, what Internet cafes they use and where they watch sports. Dozens of mosques and student groups have been infiltrated, and police have built detailed profiles of Moroccans, Egyptians, Albanians and other local ethnic groups. The NYPD surveillance extended outside New York City to neighboring New Jersey and Long Island and at colleges across the Northeast.

"I don't know even if the program as it has been described in the news media was an appropriate way to proceed, was consistent with the way in which the federal government would have done these things," said Holder, who was born in the Bronx and described New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly as his personal friend. "I simply just don't know the answers to those questions at the beginning stages of this matter."

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The AP has reported that some of the NYPD's activities — such as its 2006 surveillance of Masjid Omar, a mosque in Paterson, N.J. — could not have been performed under federal rules unless the FBI believed that the mosque itself was part of a criminal enterprise. Even then, federal agents would need approval from senior FBI and Justice Department officials.

At the NYPD, however, such monitoring was common, former police officials said. Federal law enforcement officials told the AP that the mosque itself was never under federal investigation and they were unaware the NYPD was monitoring it so closely. According to secret police files obtained by the AP, the NYPD instructed its officers to watch the mosque and, as people came and went from the Friday prayer service, investigators were to record license plates and photograph and videotape those attending. The file offered no evidence of criminal activity.

The FBI also would be prohibited from keeping police files on innocuous statements that imams made during sermons, which the NYPD did. In addition, the FBI would not be allowed to keep police files on Muslim students for discussing academic conferences online and would not be allowed to build databases of Americans who changed their names to ones sounding Arabic, which the NYPD did.

Since late August, 34 members of Congress, Muslim civil rights groups and most recently Ivy League universities and New Jersey officials have asked the Justice Department to investigate the NYPD's intelligence division. The Obama administration has pointedly refused to endorse or repudiate the NYPD programs, which the AP reported Monday are at least partly funded under a White House federal grant intended to help law enforcement fight drug crimes.

"Our examination of this has been limited at least at this point to the letters that have come in," Holder said. "We're only beginning our review. I don't know if federal funds were used."

Holder said there were 17 or 18 Justice Department investigations about how police around the country interact with citizens. "I'm not saying that will be something that we would do here, but if we think that there's a basis for it, we will do that," Holder said.

Federal investigations into police departments typically focus on police abuse or racial profiling in arrests. Since 9/11, the Justice Department has never publicly investigated a police department for its surveillance in national security investigations.

Honda, who questioned the attorney general during the budget hearing, has compared his own family's treatment as Japanese during World War II with the NYPD's treatment of Muslims.

He said his goal Tuesday was to push the issue so that Holder pays more attention to what's going on in New York.

"If we had done this back in 1940, maybe we wouldn't have been sent to camps," Honda said. "Government can operate in ways that are contradictory to our own constitutional rights. ... It has really a chilling effect."

In New York, Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Tuesday invoked the 1993 terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center and the successful attacks in 2001 that destroyed it, in a renewed defense of the NYPD: "We said back then we are not going to forget this time around," he said. "We will not. We are not going to forget." He added: "To let our guard down would just be an outrage."

Bloomberg said criticism of the police department actions was "just misplaced" and "pandering."

"It's saying things that aren't true," Bloomberg said.

Universities including Yale, Columbia and Rutgers have joined in criticizing the NYPD for infiltrating Muslim student groups and trawling their websites. Police put the names of students and academics in reports even when they were not suspected of wrongdoing. And in Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker said he was offended by the NYPD's secret surveillance of his city's Muslims.

The president of Rutgers University in New Jersey on Tuesday urged the state's attorney general to investigate the NYPD's surveillance activities of Muslim students on New Jersey campuses. In a statement, he called the surveillance a matter of grave concern to students, faculty and alumni.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has also asked the state attorney general to look into the NYPD's operations inside New Jersey. U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. has also urged Holder to look into the NYPD's operations outside New York. The president of Columbia University planned a public meeting Tuesday night to discuss the NYPD's surveillance of Muslim students.

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Tiger8055555 says:
OK. So, I wonder if the Justice Department will investigate that incident in Kansas City, MO where teenage boys those doused that other kid with gasoline and set him on fire. I mean, the guys that did it admitted it was because of the other kid's race...Oh wait..that's right...the kid that got set on fire was white, so it's OK. I momentarily forgot that it's OK to commit black on white violence under this administration, so of course there will be no investigation. Silly me.
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MojomanXXL says:
Looking at these little backward ragheads just made me puke. Amazing who people can still be fooled into believing a 6th century savage who killed, abused, tortured and enslaved is a valid role model. Tells me pretty much I have to know about these savages.
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curious2knownow says:
monitor activities by citizens "should only do so when there is a basis to believe that something inappropriate is occurring or potentially could occur."...Who is responsible for the vast majority of terrorist violence in the world? Muslims! We have the right to watch them.
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Rafterman11 says:
Funny how the loudest so-called patriots around here, so eager that we "return to the Constitution", are the first ones to abandon the Constitution they claim to love and respect so much when they disagree with it.

Spying on innocent people is strictly prohibited by our Constitution. Being attacked by fanatics is no reason to become fanatics ourselves. Freedom and standing by the principals of this nation are always risky. Cowards crash airplanes into buildings. But it takes great courage to stand by your principles in the face of a threat.


"First they came for the communists,and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me."

- pastor Martin Niemoller
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fedup12 replies:
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ive noticed that. the constitution is not a cafeteria plan.
josephp5 replies:
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You are right---the people that are most eager to spy on people for no reason other than they are Muslim are usually the ones that complain the loudest when they are asked to pass through a body scanner at an airport.

The difference, in their minds, is that one of those things affects THEMSELVES, and the other does not.

Pastor Niemoller's comment always comes to me when I hear such things.
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Molly-Pchr says:
Heir Holder is at it again. Obama's pit bull.
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RobAla says:
Holder said that police seeking to monitor activities by citizens "should only do so when there is a basis to believe that something inappropriate is occurring or potentially could occur."

Holder is one the strangest AGs the US has ever had. I guess the fact that NEW YORK was the center of a radical Muslim attack in 2001 does not count as a basis to watch Muslim groups. Or, how about the failed attack in 1993 to take down the WTC by radical Muslims? There have been other potential attacks that have been stopped by police in NY since 9/11.

Holder seems to have the ability (or purpose, whatever it is) to be on the wrong side of just about everything. AG Holder, dropped his case against the Black Panthers who blatantly intimidated voters at the polls. Now, Holder may finally be kicked out over "Fast and Furious" - the program that sold guns to Mexican cartels, guns used to kill a US border agent. This guy has to be one of the worst AGs ever.
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LarryParadise says:
Unfortunately when regarding the 9/11 attacks, we seem to be watching the wrong people ... when we start watching people like George W. Bush and Richard Cheaney, for they are the true planners and executioners of the 9/11 plot, we will then be on a course to truly prevent traitorous actions by those that sleep in beds closest to our own in the future.
As long as war is a motivation for making profits by those like Dick Cheaney, this country should fear those inside the beltway instead of those outside of it.
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BOJOKER-Obama_ replies:
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Go take your Meds for schizophrenia and learn how to spell.
It's Dick "Cheney" my little delusional and conspiracy theories one.
fedup12 replies:
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Larry needs to wear his armadillo tin foil hat. It will help keep the big government types out of your HEAD.
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smittyc says:
The DOJ is being pretty stupid. I agree with the NYPD 100%, after 911 the Muslims were out in the streets in American cities in thousands screaming God Is Great. There is plenty of footage on this, the media chose not to show it. It made the rounds regardless, due to the private sector, they video taped it as well. Now after a decade has passed and the terrorist organizations have been reduced to ashes the losers are claiming foul. Sore losers.
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credibility2 replies:
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...except every traveler at an airport is overly scrutinized by the government and groped by TSA and treated like a terrorist...but, this is OK according to this administration...too bad these Muslims were checked out...they deserve it given what their extremists did to us...
Rafterman11 replies:
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after 911 the Muslims were out in the streets in American cities in thousands screaming God Is Great.
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by smittyc February 29, 2012 6:00 AM EST

In America? Links please.

The people being investigated aren't terrorists. So no terrorist is crying foul over the illegal, un-Constitutional spying.
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krotec54 says:
This is wonderful. These Muslims should be grateful. The Japanese internment camps were for our and their protection. And we all know that any Muslim could potentially and inappropriately cause violence and or terror to protect the honor of Islam and the Koran. The Muslims should embrace the NYPD's surveillance to keep them safe from extremist in their mist.
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freeamerica31 says:
Holder said that police seeking to monitor activities by citizens "should only do so when there is a basis to believe that something inappropriate is occurring or potentially could occur."

What do you think 9/11 was all about and what religous sect did all the terrorist belong?

This is why terrorist activities happen. Too many "politically correct" idiots in this world. This is not a safe place and under surveillance is not discrimination....it's prevention.
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