AP/ November 15, 2011, 10:43 PM

Mayors talk strategy on Occupy protests

A New York City police officer keeps a demonstrator affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement from entering Zuccotti Park Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2011, in New York.

A New York City police officer keeps a demonstrator affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement from entering Zuccotti Park Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2011, in New York. / AP Photo

PORTLAND, Ore. - Don't set a midnight deadline to evict Occupy Wall Street protesters -- it will only give a crowd of demonstrators time to form. Don't set ultimatums because it will encourage violent protesters to break it. Fence off the parks after an eviction so protesters can't reoccupy it.

As concerns over safety and sanitation grew at the encampments over the last month, officials from nearly 40 cities turned to each other on conference calls, sharing what worked and what hasn't as they grappled with the leaderless movement.

In one case, the calls became group therapy sessions.

While riot police sweeping through tent cities in Portland, Ore., Oakland, Calif. and New York City over the last several days may suggest a coordinated effort, authorities and a group that organized the calls say they were a coincidence.

"It was completely spontaneous," said Chuck Wexler, director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a national police group that organized calls on Oct. 11 and Nov. 4. Among the issues discussed: safety, traffic and the fierceness of demonstrations in each city.

"This was an attempt to get insight on what other departments were doing," he said.

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From Atlanta to Washington, D.C., officials talked about how authorities could make camps safe for protesters and the community. Officials also learned about the kinds of problems they could expect from cities with larger and more established protest encampments.

In Portland, for example, protests were initially peaceful gatherings. Then the city's large number of homeless people moved in, transforming the camp into an open-air treatment center for drug addiction and mental illness.

On Oct. 11, just five days after protesters set up camp, police chiefs who had been dealing with the encampments for weeks warned that the homeless will be attracted to the food, shelter and medical care the camps offered.

There were more tidbits, including the midnight deadline.

City police did exactly that when they evicted protesters during the day from two downtown parks over the weekend. Officers came armed with pepper spray, bean-bag rounds and stun guns, but didn't need to deploy them.

One protester says he was injured when he fell and police dragged him from the scene.

Going in at midnight "would have been a confrontation that really wasn't necessary," police spokesman Sgt. Pete Simpson said.

Police hold a demonstrator at an encampment for the Occupy Wall Street movement in Oakland, Calif., Monday, Nov. 14, 2011.

/ Paul Sakuma

It was advice that came after the Oakland, Calif., protest was shut down Oct. 25 in a confrontation that turned violent. One protester, Iraq War veteran Scott Olsen, was badly injured.

In that city, where protesters' encampment was peacefully removed on Monday, city officials took part in strategy sessions with other big cities dealing with similar demonstrations.

Interim Police Chief Howard Jordan said he participated in a call organized by Wexler's group and has talked with officials in the New York police department's civil disturbance unit and high-ranking police officials in San Francisco.

He said a theme was how the atmosphere at the camps had shifted from a haven for peaceful protest to one for criminal behavior.

"Some chiefs had been tolerant of the progressive movement, but that all changed when the criminal element showed up," Jordan said. "As police, you can't allow anything that foster criminal activities in any city."

Jordan said that he and other police brass and city officials began planning last week for officers to remove the camp outside City Hall for a second time after collecting enough evidence that gang activity and an open-air drug market had emerged at the park.

The camp's removal became an urgent issue after a 25-year-old man was fatally gunned down on Thursday.

"We don't need any more evidence than that," Jordan said. "We had to step it up."

Mayors of mid-sized and large cities held similar calls twice last week, one of which was organized by the U.S. Conference of Mayors.

Portland Mayor Sam Adams said the primary issue among the mayors was how to get a message to a movement that didn't have any clear leadership. "A lot of time was spent on how do you effectively communicate with a group that doesn't have a leader?" Adams said.

Some departments didn't have to rely on the conference calls. Like most police agencies, they are constantly exchanging information.

Los Angeles police Cmdr. Andrew Smith said his department gets updates as much as several times a day from various sources, including other law enforcement agencies and media outlets that are monitoring the Occupy protests.

Some of the information shared among law enforcement officials included how many people are involved in the protests, if there have been any arrests and if demonstrators are planning any events. Smith said he was unaware of other agencies' plans to evict protesters.

In New York, where police cleared out a tent camp in a park near Wall Street that had become the center of the movement when it sprang up several months ago, authorities declined to discuss details of their talks with other agencies.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said the department had been in touch with police departments elsewhere, but that what works in one city may not necessarily work in another.

"We're sort of unique. I don't think you can look at one city . We have the ability to mass a large number of police officers," he said. "Some of these other cities quite frankly don't.

In Seattle, protesters initially gathered at a downtown park near one of the city's main shopping districts. After warnings that overnight camping wouldn't be allowed, several people were arrested when they wouldn't leave.

"Our response has been localized," police spokesman Sean Whitcomb said. "We're aware that other cities are going through other circumstances. Of course, we monitor the news.

"Ultimately we're acting on information that we have here, not with what's going in Boston or New York or Los Angeles," he added.

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thebes42 says:
What freaking rubbish.
Give the protesters time to form a line?
Have you read that bloody Constitution? You know the one our ancestors fought and DIED for?????

Assembly is a "God given" right. Our freaking TYRANTS can NOT take it from us.

Hang the pisweasels high from the flag poles is what I say. I could really give a rats rump what's being protested for at this point, the MERE FACT that they can't protest is enough for me. The "Mayor" is a traitor to multinational elite money-freaks and should be hanged from the most convenient flag post.
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noloyalisti says:
It's hard for the mayors to break their allegiance to the Top 1% masters who have run America for so long (and played us for lots of our money).

But they will have to learn the hard way. The more they crack down the faster and bigger the Occupy 99% will grow. For example tomorrow Thursday November 17 is a massive National Day of Action for We Are the 99%. Join one near you. There are almost 100 people signed up for my event.
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thebes42 replies:
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noloyalisti says:
America has become the evil we abhor to steal a few words from my heroine Representative Barbara Lee of Oakland.

We are supposedly defending freedom and spreading democracy overseas with all our taxpayer money but just trashing and destroying it here. No wonder everyone hates us as the worst kind of hypocrites.
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thebes42 replies:
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Freedom is a LIE meant to profit the corporate elite.
There is no FREEDOM anywhere.
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LoadedAndDangerous says:
I hope and prey that these Liberal protesters bring down your budgets and put you further in debt. That's what the Liberals are doing to our government by sucking the taxpayers dry on Welfare. There's no difference between a Liberal and a Leach.
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ZFB18 says:
The governments of the United States are making similar, less violent, mistakes to China in 1989 regarding the long term Tiananmen Square protests: making the issue ejecting the camper-protestors, and not the currently malfunctioning economics, and politics of our system.
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ZFB18 says:
The governments of the United States are making similar, less violent, mistakes to China in 1989 regarding the long term Tiananmen Square protests: making the issue ejecting the camper-protestors, and not the currently malfunctioning economics, and politics of our system.
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annabird says:
This is the most biased piece of trash I have ever read.
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SilenceDoGood2011 says:
http://www.brianrogel.com/the-100-percent-solution-for-the-99-percent
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wfw3536 says:
Bloomberg is such a hypocrite, first he says he supports the Occupy group and now he is trying to kick them out of the park. The late night attack on the Occupy group is unbelievable. Where is Obama and the democrats who say they support these demonstrators.
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involved_indi replies:
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are you kidding? Obama doesn't support this other than what he can milk it for and now its outlived it's usefulness which at best was to detract from the poorly performing economy.
SilenceDoGood2011 replies:
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If you argue that the police are just doing their jobs, then by that same logic are not the Syrian police just doing their jobs? I realize the scale of brutality between the Syrian police and the police in the US is different but just doing your job is one of the reasons this country is in this mess in the first place. CEO's have been just doing their jobs for years, increasing their wealth at the expense of the American workforce. Please read Retirement Heist by Ellen E. Schultz. We need to stand for something more than just doing our jobs.
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SilenceDoGood2011 says:
The Police are and will be getting screwed in this lopsided economy just as much as the rest of us. Why are they so eager to crack down on the people that are trying to restore some form of economic equality? The ignorance of the American population never ceases to amaze me. The American public, including the police, watch the news spoon fed to the news agencies by corporate pundits, and a government controlled by lobbyists, and lap it up like kittens at a milk bowl. Anyone ever look at how much money the news broadcasters make? Something tells me they are closer to the 1% and the other 90%.
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SilenceDoGood2011 replies:
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NEWS ANCHORS (salary per year)
Katie Couric, CBS Evening News $15 million
Matt Lauer, NBC Today coanchor $12 million
Diane Sawyer $12 million
Meredith Vieira, NBC Today coanchor $10 million
Brian Williams $8 million
Anderson Cooper $5 million
Keith Olbermann, MSNBC anchor $4 million
Harry Smith, CBS The Early Show coanchor $3 million
Ernie Anastos, New York City local news anchor $2 million
Lesley Stahl, CBS 60 Minutes correspondent $1.8 million
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If you argue that the police are just doing their jobs, then by that same logic are not the Syrian police just doing their jobs? I realize the scale of brutality between the Syrian police and the police in the US is different but just doing your job is one of the reasons this country is in this mess in the first place. CEO's have been just doing their jobs for years, increasing their wealth at the expense of the American workforce. Please read Retirement Heist by Ellen E. Schultz. We need to stand for something more than just doing our jobs.
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