AP/ November 10, 2011, 9:30 PM

Poll: Boomers anxiety about retirement grows

Susan Webb and her husband Bob hold their dog Max in their West Liberty, Iowa, home, Nov. 9, 2011. An Associated Press-LifeGoesStrong.com poll finds a baby boom generation planning to work into retirement years _ with 73 percent planning to work past retirement, up from 67 percent this spring.

Susan Webb and her husband Bob hold their dog Max in their West Liberty, Iowa, home, Nov. 9, 2011. An Associated Press-LifeGoesStrong.com poll finds a baby boom generation planning to work into retirement years _ with 73 percent planning to work past retirement, up from 67 percent this spring. / AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall

WASHINGTON - A majority of baby boomers say they have taken a financial hit in the past three years and most now doubt that they will be financially secure after they retire, according to a new poll.

So much for kicking back at the lake house, long afternoons of golf or pretty much anything this generation had dreamed about in retirement. The Associated Press-LifeGoesStrong.com poll found a baby boom generation planning to work into retirement years — with 73 percent planning to work past retirement, up from 67 percent this spring.

In all, 53 percent of boomers polled said they do not feel confident they'll be able to afford a comfortable retirement. That's up from 44 percent who were concerned about retirement finances in March.

"I'm not confident at all," says 63-year-old Susan Webb of West Liberty, Iowa.

Webb — one of the 77 million boomers born between 1946 and 1964 — had long hoped to retire at 65 from her job as a real estate broker. Not anymore, not since the economic downturn that led to depressed housing prices, wild stock market swings and an unemployment rate hovering at or above 9 percent for all but two months since May 2009.

Webb and her husband, who's 67, are both still working full time. They hope to ratchet back to part time at some point, but plans for a scenic lake house where they can go fishing and spend time with their two grandchildren will likely mean selling their current home — not part of the original plan.

At 50, Cheri Hubbs of Norfolk, Va., is on the younger side of the boomer spectrum. Even so, she knows she'll work in retirement.

"I just feel like I'm going to work until the day I die," says Hubbs, an administrative assistant.

Hubbs had little saved for retirement when she went to see a financial planner a few years ago. Now, she and her husband are socking away as much money as they can. She's also cut back drastically on her little luxuries — trips to the nail salon and Starbucks.

In the poll, 41 percent of boomers said they are expecting to have to scale back their lifestyle in some way in retirement and 31 percent believe they will struggle financially.

Retirement expert Olivia Mitchell says working longer and cutting back are two practical ways for boomers to save more.

"It's a kind of downscaled consumer society that I see in the next five years at least," said Mitchell, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School and executive director of the Pension Research Council. "Consume less and tighten the belt."

Downsizing is part of the plan for software designer Greg Schmidt of Carlisle, Mass.

Schmidt, 53, says there's no doubt he'll be working longer, likely into his 70s. With a daughter in high school and twin 12-year-old boys, he's got college tuitions to worry about as well as an aging father and father-in-law.

He plans one day to move to a smaller home, maybe in the mountains of Vermont. Almost one-quarter of boomers in the poll — 23 percent — said retirement will mean they'll have to move.

For Schmidt, the stock market is another source of anxiety.

"I am most concerned that we're going to be entering a different time and equities aren't quite as valued," he said. "I am afraid I'm a little heavy into equities."

The span between the two AP-LifeGoesStrong.com polls coincided with a 10 percent drop in the Dow Jones industrial average, which recovered most of those losses by climbing this week to above 12,000 before plunging again amid concerns about Europe's debt crisis.

In all, 62 percent of the boomers polled lost money on at least one of four core parts of retirement savings:

-A workplace retirement savings plan, 42 percent.

-Personal investments outside of an IRA/workplace savings, 41 percent.

-An IRA (individual retirement account), 32 percent.

-Real estate, 29 percent.

The AP-LifeGoesStrong.com poll was conducted Oct. 5-12 by Knowledge Networks of Palo Alto, Calif. It involved online interviews with 1,095 baby boomers, as well as companion interviews with an additional 315 adults of other age groups. The survey has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.6 percentage points for baby boomers and 4.8 percentage points for all adults.

Knowledge Networks used traditional telephone and mail sampling methods to randomly recruit respondents. People selected who had no Internet access were given it for free.

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formerusmcsgt1 says:
by expatriate2 November 11, 2011 12:08 PM EST
You are absolutely right. I left the U.S. many years ago and have never regretted the decision.
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I retire to the south coast of Guatemala in 3 years. 50 degrees overnight all year round, 70 in the winter, 80 in the summer. No heat, no air required. Beautiful.

I am already fluent in Spanish - taught myself about 30 years or so ago.

Many Americans see leaving the US as unthinkable and live in relative poverty the rest of their lives as a result.

Pity.
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OnTheCrown says:
Its articles like these that make me thankful for my Trust Fund.
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DCCorruption says:
by askagain November 11, 2011 10:27 AM EST

Sounds like you are saying the same thing as what I said. All I was saying was that after having paid into social security for just under four decades, I figure that money may not be there for me because corrupt politicians used it for pet projects like it was their money. I have a definite mistrust of corporations because they expect complete loyalty from their employees, but when the going gets tough, they have no problems with laying off those same employees. The government does the same. People have paid into social security all of the time they've worked and the government cuts that benefit, but at the same time bails out bankers and wall street gamblers caught with their hands in the cookie jar. We have two tier system that favors the comfortable and stomps on the weak. Being a middle class person, I am aware of just how fragile my predicament is and that it would take only a nudge to push me into the unemployed poor bracket.....many people out there are clueless and haven't even thought about this.
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formerusmcsgt1 replies:
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Even worse, repub working class try to vote us all into poverty fur the FURTHER enrichment of the elite.....
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commenter777 says:
Watch the 2010 Academy Award winner for Best Documentary called "Inside Job" to see how the ultra-rich banking establishment stole your retirement money from you without being prosecuted for "mortgage fraud". It is common knowledge that they started the current world economic disaster we are presently experiencing. We were all robbed and they are not being prosecuted because they have too much money and enfluence. The laws of the US now mean nothing.
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askagain replies:
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Dig deeper. With the government telling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to guarantee mortgage loans, the banks and mortgage companies could make risky loans without taking any risks. This was done because the government operated on the premise that eveyone should be able to own a home. If you could make loans without taking any risks, what would you do?
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julesarcher1 says:
A Pension is not matched money, it's free money. That's why so few companies offer them any more. Companies match 401(k) deductions, but Pension money is a free benefit. It was used in the past to lure people to work for a company. Now with the job market the way it is, that is rare.

I advise anyone with a Pension who reaches the age where they can pull the money out to do so immediately! Too many companies enter periods of fiscal troubles and in bankruptcy, convince judges to vacate the Pension agreements and keep all of that money. The second you can get your hands on it, pull it! That's usually at age 55 and you have to be gone from the company.

Pull company 401(k) funds also when you leave a company. Although the deposits are guaranteed, the match is not and can be taken away in bankruptcy court. Roll it into something self-directed.

These companies just don't get that when they end their loyalty to their employees, their employees end their loyalty to them. How many people do you know who are working at a job where they have been at for 30 years? Not as common anymore. People look for better opportunities more and leave loyalty behind, seeing how the companies are treating people.
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DCCorruption replies:
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Some pensions are money the company gives the employee, but all the same, when that employee is vested, that money is the employees, not that of the company. I really don't care what the Supreme Court ruled if they ruled that a binding contract isn't a binding contract, then what exactly is the point of having laws? What you are saying here is that rich people don't really have to pay you for services rendered if they don't feel like it.
This particular Supreme Court is nothing but an extension of the Chamber of Commerce which in turn is nothing but a union of businesses. People complain all of the time about workers unions, but you never hear anything about the chamber of commerce being a union of businesses (and that's only the public side of their meetings by the way).
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by DCCorruption November 11, 2011 2:43 PM EST
Some pensions are money the company gives the employee, but all the same, when that employee is vested, that money is the employees, not that of the company.

Only until Bankruptcy. Then it can be wiped away. Ask Boeing retirees. Or Chrysler. Or many others who now have nothing.
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klusk66 says:
Even post baby boomers are anxious. I got news for you, everyone is. Pension or no pension, 401(k) or no 401(k). The way the markets have been saw-toothing, we're all watching our 401(k) accounts being pissed into the wind.

I have resolved myself to the fact that my 401(k) will probably not be much when I retire. Social Security will probably have long been squandered by then. And I'll work until a company decides I'm too old to work for them, and/or until I die. That's just reality. And I'm single!

Sucks. I've been working since about 14 years old. I've been paying into my social security every single week, and somehow I'm NOT entitled to that money? I've been investing in my 401(k) for 20 years and saw it cut in half when the market crashed. Just when my numbers started to approach those of pre-market crash numbers, guess what, it crashed again, and has been saw-toothing ever since.

And I have news for everyone the problem is NEITHER republican NOR democrat. It's EVERYONE'S problem.
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workerdroid replies:
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You nailed it right on the head. Well said.
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workerdroid says:
It's funny that many say "boomer" in a disparaging way. I see it as a term for someone who worked hard for what they have, saved, and most importantly, planned to take care of themselves after their work years were through.
The entitlement generation, those making the disparaging comments, have a differing philosophy: They take, rather than give, consume rather than contribute, complain rather than solve, are selfish rather than selfless, are perpetually ungrateful for all they have, think they are beyond laws and boundries, believe they are special, and self centric to a near non fucntioning degree.
They sicken me at every turn. I respect the boomer for what they have accomplished.
Still trying to figure out why they are disparaged so much.....
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nomorelibs replies:
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Every generation spoils their children more than the last. It's got to the point where children expect more and more from their parents. Our parents and grandparents only spent money on the necessities of life. Today's parents are not only burdened by day to day living expenses, they have cable bills, cell phone bills, gas and insurance for their childrens cars. These are all things that we either did not have or we paid for ourselves. While it is nice to provide for our children, it only makes them more dependent on us.
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http://www.superseventies.com/worstgen.html

I hate the Baby Boomers. They're the most self-centered, self-seeking, self-
interested, self-absorbed, self-indulgent, self-aggrandizing generation in
American history. As they enter late middle age, the Boomers still can't grow
up. Guys who once dropped acid are now downing Viagra; women who once eschewed
lipstick are now getting liposuction.

I know it's a sin to hate, so let me put it this way: If they were animals,
they'd be a plague of locusts, devouring everything in their path and leaving
but a wasteland. If they were plants, they'd be kudzu, choking off ever other
living thing with their sheer mass. If they were artists, they'd be abstract
expressionists, interested only in the emotions of that moment -- not in the
lasting result of the creative process. If they were a baseball club, they'd be
the Florida Marlins: prefab prima donnas who bought their way to prominence,
then disbanded -- a temporary association but not a team.

more: http://www.superseventies.com/worstgen.html
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Garlen66 says:
I hope nobody making comments voted Republican - ever. If so, you're just getting what you voted for, so don't worry, be happy.
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askagain replies:
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Garlen66 - Have you been listening to the news? The money is running out. With fewer people working, the government (Federal, state, & local) is strapped for cash. Either we raise taxes or we lower expenses. How many Americans are in a mood for tax increases unless it is only on the wealthy. But raising taxes only on the wealthy won't solve our problems. The Republicans have their ideas and the Democrats have their ideas. Now who is right and what is the solution?
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nancy_naive says:
IBM, AT&T, Hughes, Raytheon,... the list is extensive. These companies raided their defined benefits retirement plans in the 1990s and gave the money as bonuses and retriement benefits to management.

Read the "Retirement Heist".

When the market cratered in 2008, there was no surplus to cushion the blow, and today, pensions collectively are underfunded by 20%.

With one big exception: Pensions for top executives continue to spiral, and account for much of the growing pension cost companies complain about.
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nancy_naive says:
Problem: Only the Top 1% are making money.

Solution: Retire to a country where your SocSec and retirement income puts you in the Top 1%.

The ONLY reason to live in the US is because you've become accustom to the idea. There a plenty of countries where you can live much better in your last years, and where 1/2 of your estate won't go to some hospital for prolonging your life 3 weeks.
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expatriate2 replies:
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You are absolutely right. I left the U.S. many years ago and have never regretted the decision. My life is simpler, cheaper, happier and with significantly more perks than I ever enjoyed in the U.S. You need to be willing to make the move, learn a new language and fit into a new culture. But it's not that difficult, believe me. How about owning a new home on a large lot for about 28,000 USD? A maid every day for $50 USD per week? Water and garbage pickup $5 a month. Need I say more?
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