Celebrations in West Bank over Palestinians' U.N. upgrade

(CBS News) RAMALLAH - The celebrations in the West Bank said everything about how much Thursday's United Nations vote meant to Palestinians.

An overwhelming majority of the General Assembly voted to upgrade the Palestinians from U.N. observers to non-member observer state.

The observer status is still a long way from a full member at the U.N. But seen from Ramallah's Yasser Arafat Square, it's a huge step forward.

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According to long-time peace negotiator Hannan Ashrawi, Thursday's vote was all about recognition.

"Getting state status is what empowers the Palestinians, what defines our territory as occupied, what defines our relationships regionally and with the rest of the world and what gives us access to international organizations and agencies," Ashrawi said.

The Israelis fear that the Palestinians will use their new status to take Israel to the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes in Gaza and elsewhere, which is why they and the U.S. fought against it.

The reality is that little will change in the short term.

Peace negotiator Hannan Ashrawi

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The Palestinian territory is still a patchwork defined and controlled by Israel. There is no sea port or international airport.

And Israel restricts where Palestinians may work and travel and controls the economy here by controlling access to markets.

When asked if she was more hopeful than in the past, Ashrawi said that would be asking too much.

"The situation is extremely dangerous and extremely precarious," she said.

Sixty-five years ago Thursday, the U.N. voted to form two separate states here, but the Arabs rejected the plan.

Since then there have been four major wars and countless other bloody conflicts.

The U.N. vote will not bring any kind of durable peace or real independence, but for the moment, Palestinians can celebrate it as a rare victory of diplomacy over violence.

[HermannSchmettlapp]

Arafat declared an independent state of "Palestine" in 1988, however it was without territory or borders.

Over 130 countries had recognized "Palestine" and over 50 had not.

The United Nations General Assembly does not have the legal authority to dispossess one country of land and give it to another country.

The land called "Gaza" and the "West Bank" was captured by Israel from the Egyptian and Jordanian occupiers of land last legally owned by Great Britain as a result of being a victor in World War I. Though the Mandate for Palestine included the offer of land to the Palestinians, they refused that offer. One day later, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon -- themselves creations of the English pen -- and Egypt occupied the land Palestinians foreswore.

The proto-state of Palestine will not actually exist unless and until it gets its own territory. And for that, it will need to make peace with the power that possess and controls the land Palestine wants for itself.

Until then, politics may have given Palestinians and encouragement, but legally, today is as was the day before yesterday.

[charliechoo1290]

It was shameful as an American to watch our governments UN reaction to a people freeing itself from this brutal apartheid state. The US will go down as being on the wrong side in history. The world sees it and the controlled US media's spin is disgusting. In the future the UN should next draw up clear and defined borders along with a protected corridor between the West bank and Gaza.

[cubscout09]

Here's an oldie, but, a goldie for those who liked things just the way they were before the UN vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMpVHXSOe4

[jamie047]

It makes sense that they'd celebrate.