January 15, 2012 7:12 PM

Qatar: A tiny country asserts powerful influence

When Qaddafi's compound finally fell, Qatar's flag could be seen flying over the ruins.

Bin Jasim: This is the first fruitful coalition between the Arabs and the NATO to help an Arab country.

Simon: How did you feel when you saw the Qatari flag go up over Qaddafi's old compound?

Bin Jasim: Well I believe that leaders should limit their stays. That's where the problem is happening.

That didn't really answer our question, so we tried again.

Simon: How did you feel when you saw the Qatari flag go up in Tripoli?

Bin Jasim: I was trying to get out of this question.

Simon: No kidding.

Bin Jasim: Yes. Seriously, I was trying to get-- well, I'm proud that we-- we help the Libyan people. Let us put it this way.

Simon: Must've been a great moment for you.

Bin Jasim: It is-- it is a new experience for us.

So is the emir's emergence as the most influential leader in the Arab world. In England, he was hosted by the queen. And last April, President Obama thanked him for helping promote democracy in the Middle East.

But the emir also has good relations with Hamas - the militant Palestinian group that runs Gaza - which the U.S. labels a terrorist organization.

Simon: Do the Americans ever come to you and say, "Hey, will you cut it out with Hamas, it's really bothering us?"

Bin Khalifa: They didn't like our relation with Iran, with Hamas, with Hezbollah. But maybe if you go to the other side, the Iranian, they don't like to see our relation with Israel. Hamas, they don't want to see our relation with Israel. So it's-- it's completely mixed.

The emir appears to have no ideology and, critics say, no loyalties. When his close personal friend Syrian President Assad refused to stop killing his people, the emir abandoned him. Today, he talks tougher than any other world leader on what should be done in Syria.

Simon: Would you be in favor of Arab nations intervening in Syria?

Bin Khalifa: I think for such a situation to stop the killing, we have some-- some troops should go to stop the killing.

The killing is worlds away from Qatar. What you see here is contentment. There have been no protests, no calls for democracy. After all, what could an opposition offer that Qataris don't already have? But the emir just bought himself some additional insurance. He raised the salaries of all Qatari government workers by 60 percent. Soldiers and policemen got 120 percent. The prime minister insists this has nothing to do with politics.

Bin Jasim: We have one obsession-- is how to continue to let the people live in the same standard. That's very difficult target. We are trying to do that target.

Simon: Excellency, can you think of any other country in the world that has a better standard of living?

Bin Jasim: Well there is good living standard in many places in the world. But the main thing is what sort of quality of people you produce. We would like our people not to be spoiled by this. We need our children not to be spoiled by this. That's, I think, the big challenge for us.

And, there's a bigger challenge. Here is Qatar's military on parade at last month's National Day celebrations. Picturesque, but not very intimidating, not when your next door neighbors are Iran and Saudi Arabia. So how does the emir keep his island of happiness afloat when the seas are getting rougher every day?

Simon: It often seems as if the basis of your foreign policy is to be friends with everyone.

Bin Khalifa: Don't you think this is a good policy for a small country?

Simon: Yes, it is if you can pull it off.

Bin Khalifa: Well, we are trying.



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