February 19, 2009 11:58 AM
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Live To Tell: River's Edge
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"Live To Tell," a 48 Hours Mystery special, limited-run series. (CBS)
Dan Zapp: Danielle and I stayed in touch after the incident. We tried to talk occasionally, but our relationship wasn't anything like it was before. It was like every time that I talked to her, I had to bring up the past all over again. I had to think about all the things that I thought I had done wrong, all the ways that I couldn't save her and I couldn't get us both out of that situation. And most of the time I couldn't stand it. And over a period of time I started to pull further and further away.
Danielle Keener: Transitioning back to being in college was really hard for me. I really struggled with being around men that were strangers to me.
Elizabeth Martin: At first she was a little withdrawn. You know, she was very scared. She didn't want to walk alone at night. She did have a lot of nightmares, and it was upsetting for all of us because we really wanted to help her. And we really - we didn't want her to be scared or sad. But with the circumstances, there really wasn't any other way. That's how she was.
Danielle: I knew though, in the back of my mind, that there was still a lot that I had to do personally in order to feel as though I could you know, live again.
Elizabeth Martin: Four months after Babner was convicted, we had Take Back the Night on the Susquehanna University campus. And what Take Back the Night is, is a rally against rape. Everybody can attend, and they can get up and speak about their experience with rape or violence.
Danielle: And I saw all these brave women walk up to the microphone and just share, you know, "I'm a rape survivor," and share parts of their story. It was just so inspiring and so empowering that they had a voice that they were able to share.
Elizabeth Martin: There was about 10 minutes of silence. Nobody was getting up to speak, and Dani got up to speak. And we knew she was gonna tell the whole story. And we knew that she was gonna share this with everybody, and that was probably the most emotional moment for all of us because you could kind of see the bravery in Dani, and the growth that she was making, and how strong she was. She just got up there and she told the whole story. And it just really moved everyone, and it really moved all of us. And we were so proud of her. We were really, really proud of her.
Danielle: I just, I felt so much power and so much strength. And part of what I felt he had taken from me, I was able to pull back and say, "You know what, he may have taken a few things, but there is so much that he didn't take, that he couldn't touch. And that is what makes me who I am."
Dan: I think it took me a lot longer than it should have to get to a more comfortable place in dealing with the incident and talking about it and looking at it from a healthy perspective. I knew that I should be getting therapy, you know? I should be dealing with it. I just really didn't want to. I wanted to try to ignore it and just hope that eventually it went away. In the last eight years, I feel like I've grown up a whole lot.
Regarding the incident, my perspective has almost entirely changed. Danielle and I, we've really reconnected over the past couple of years. We've really started our relationship over from where it kind of ended. We're really close now, and I consider her a great friend and someone who I hope to know for the rest of my life.
Danielle: Dan met an amazing woman at college who has been such a great companion for him. She has definitely helped him to get to that next level in his own survival and healing. They got married in 2007.
Dan: I feel like everything's kind of going in the direction I always wanted it to go. And I'm just really happy for everything that I have right now.
Elizabeth Martin: In spring of junior year, I introduced Kevin MacGuire to Dani. And they connected instantly and dated, fell in love, and he proposed to her just a couple years later. The police chief and the men who rescued Dan and Dani, including the duck hunter, were all guests at the wedding, as well. Dani was so beautiful at her wedding. She was glowing.
Brent Keener: Dani looks absolutely wonderful. She is just doing great, and looking great. And [I'm] extremely proud of her.
Danielle: I'm so happy that I have made it to where I am today. The gratefulness that I have for my beautiful baby girl and my husband that I have I don't have to think about what happened to me every day. It doesn't define me anymore. I have learned how to make it a part of who I am. It has made me a better person.
Dan: Danielle and I are forever intertwined. That's like a connection that no one else can ever take away from us. She's always going to be a part of my life.
Danielle: It's as though our souls are connected. He'll be a part of my life forever.
Dan Zapp is studying for a Ph.D in psychology. Danielle Keener MacGuire is a drug and alcohol counselor. Every year they call each other on the anniversary of the shootings.
Copyright 2009 CBS. All rights reserved. Danielle Keener: Transitioning back to being in college was really hard for me. I really struggled with being around men that were strangers to me.
Elizabeth Martin: At first she was a little withdrawn. You know, she was very scared. She didn't want to walk alone at night. She did have a lot of nightmares, and it was upsetting for all of us because we really wanted to help her. And we really - we didn't want her to be scared or sad. But with the circumstances, there really wasn't any other way. That's how she was.
Danielle: I knew though, in the back of my mind, that there was still a lot that I had to do personally in order to feel as though I could you know, live again.
Elizabeth Martin: Four months after Babner was convicted, we had Take Back the Night on the Susquehanna University campus. And what Take Back the Night is, is a rally against rape. Everybody can attend, and they can get up and speak about their experience with rape or violence.
Danielle: And I saw all these brave women walk up to the microphone and just share, you know, "I'm a rape survivor," and share parts of their story. It was just so inspiring and so empowering that they had a voice that they were able to share.
Elizabeth Martin: There was about 10 minutes of silence. Nobody was getting up to speak, and Dani got up to speak. And we knew she was gonna tell the whole story. And we knew that she was gonna share this with everybody, and that was probably the most emotional moment for all of us because you could kind of see the bravery in Dani, and the growth that she was making, and how strong she was. She just got up there and she told the whole story. And it just really moved everyone, and it really moved all of us. And we were so proud of her. We were really, really proud of her.
Danielle: I just, I felt so much power and so much strength. And part of what I felt he had taken from me, I was able to pull back and say, "You know what, he may have taken a few things, but there is so much that he didn't take, that he couldn't touch. And that is what makes me who I am."
Dan: I think it took me a lot longer than it should have to get to a more comfortable place in dealing with the incident and talking about it and looking at it from a healthy perspective. I knew that I should be getting therapy, you know? I should be dealing with it. I just really didn't want to. I wanted to try to ignore it and just hope that eventually it went away. In the last eight years, I feel like I've grown up a whole lot.
Regarding the incident, my perspective has almost entirely changed. Danielle and I, we've really reconnected over the past couple of years. We've really started our relationship over from where it kind of ended. We're really close now, and I consider her a great friend and someone who I hope to know for the rest of my life.
Danielle: Dan met an amazing woman at college who has been such a great companion for him. She has definitely helped him to get to that next level in his own survival and healing. They got married in 2007.
Dan: I feel like everything's kind of going in the direction I always wanted it to go. And I'm just really happy for everything that I have right now.
Elizabeth Martin: In spring of junior year, I introduced Kevin MacGuire to Dani. And they connected instantly and dated, fell in love, and he proposed to her just a couple years later. The police chief and the men who rescued Dan and Dani, including the duck hunter, were all guests at the wedding, as well. Dani was so beautiful at her wedding. She was glowing.
Brent Keener: Dani looks absolutely wonderful. She is just doing great, and looking great. And [I'm] extremely proud of her.
Danielle: I'm so happy that I have made it to where I am today. The gratefulness that I have for my beautiful baby girl and my husband that I have I don't have to think about what happened to me every day. It doesn't define me anymore. I have learned how to make it a part of who I am. It has made me a better person.
Dan: Danielle and I are forever intertwined. That's like a connection that no one else can ever take away from us. She's always going to be a part of my life.
Danielle: It's as though our souls are connected. He'll be a part of my life forever.
Dan Zapp is studying for a Ph.D in psychology. Danielle Keener MacGuire is a drug and alcohol counselor. Every year they call each other on the anniversary of the shootings.
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